This event is also discussed in the EXCELLENT recent book, "Killing The Rising Sun," which is a chronicle of the entire Japan/USA Pacific campaign of WWII.
Highly recommended!
i just went to a pre screening of this movie about an adventist guy who didn't want to kill but joined the army as a medic on the front line.
desmond doss saved 75 men in one operation singlehanded on the island of okinawa where desmond worked lowering men down a 400ft cliff to safety.. i thought this may be of interest to jws because of the pacifist stand they also have.. the movie comes out on the 4 th november..
This event is also discussed in the EXCELLENT recent book, "Killing The Rising Sun," which is a chronicle of the entire Japan/USA Pacific campaign of WWII.
Highly recommended!
IF this were true, imagine the divisions it would lead to within the congregation!
For that reason, I hope they do it!
the reason i ask this is because we heard reports that greenlees was kicked out of bethel because he was one and then we heard reports that another one, jaracz i believe was one all though it sounds kind of iffy to me.. 2 out of i don't how many total gb seems kind of high so i'm thinking that perhaps the percentage is quite higher as this would explain to a degree why the gb have written in clauses to keep the organization from reporting them to authorities.. it is true that part of the reason they remain silent to authorities is because of the reproach it brings to their precious corporation but i think that is only a small part of the reason and perhaps there might be a bigger reason maybe quite a few have been over powered by their darker side and have engaged in this behavior but because of denial and delusion they will not confess and willingly encourage cover ups.. just speculation i know but i'm starting to think that there is a very dark side to all of these guys hidden by their persona(jungian) that is making them stoop so low as to implement these very bad policies..
Potentially, 100%.
how many witnesses are aware that technically, according to watchtower policy, they can if they wish too...associate with dissociated and disfellowshipped relatives.
for all those who are dissociated or disfellowshipped, please share this with your relatives who are currently shunning you.
there is nothing the elders can do as long as they are not discussing spiritual matters.
JW.ORG is obfuscating the matter.
Sure, you can quit the JWs, and when you do you will be subjected to the loving provision called "shunning."
the forward the following story is my fifty year relationship with the watchtower bible and tract society otherwise known as the jehovah witnesses.
it started when i was just two years old and ended just one week after 9/11, 2001 just three weeks before my fifty second birthday.
i was basically raised in that thought system i became a full time minister in my late teens.
Do you intend to use a spell/grammar-checker or seek the benevolence of an editor, or is that too much trouble?
Some errors: "the witnesses however are pacifist." WRONG! Look up pacifist on the Watchtower CD.
chapter 1 was posted sometime back.
because of it's length chapter 2 will be posted in two parts.
chapter 2 the journey begins.
Thanks! I appreciate the amount of work that you put into that!
i have indeed made the truth my own, and i am never going back to jehovah's witnesses.
the fact now is that talking about this religion with someone who believes it makes me sort of angry.
it raises my blood pressure.
I'm not sure that this is exactly whet you mean, bit I _LIKE_ the concept od proactive, pre-emptive SHUNNING, especially from the perspective of "I will shun you NOW so that you can't shun me later!"
Go for it, and may it go well for you.
this image appears on the current main web page - as you scroll the "witnessing" photos.. weird "facial" image at the guy's right shoulder.. .
LOL @ Splash!
But seriously, fulltimestudent NAILED it.
Our minds are evolved to recognize patterns. Sometimes our minds fool us.
anyone else hear about this.
as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.
quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).
Sorry, were you ever a JW? Did you have a "free home Bible study"? Did you ever learn how to use the reference material in THE BACK OF YOUR BIBLE?
I'm stunned that anyone on an XJW site could ask such a question, really!
When I was a pioneer I had a couple of return visits at an apartment that was a little hippie commune (this was before 1970) one day one of the guys tells me that while part of the rotating crowd in the apartment was "discussing the Bible" with me in the front room, the half of the crowd in the back rooms were either getting high or servicing a couple of ladies they had back there.
I was so offended that they didn't offer to share with me, I never went back there!
Were you one of those guys, Sorry?
so, i joined just yesterday after coming across this forum looking at beth sarim, and i though that i would share my story with you.
it will no doubt be very similar to a lot of others, but it's a way of getting to know me at least.. i was brought up as witness from the age of 4 years old, my dad picked up the 'truth' from one of his friends in the pub and it seemed to go from there, he would quickly get baptised and progress to becoming a ministerial servant and then an elder.
from a young age i wanted to be like my dad and become a pioneer, a ministerial servant and then an elder... perhaps even becoming a co. the world, spiritually speaking, was my oyster.
Don't feel too bad. We ALL got baptized for the wrong reason, but baptism is the first step to becoming an XJW.
Welcome!